lol I know what you mean, but i still enjoy it, the main guy's a tool sometimes with his 'I'm tough enough to do yoga and still be macho' angle, but all in all i think they're all o.k. What's wrong with Garver? He seems professional, polite, and very talented as an artist, which is more than i can say for a lot of tattooists out there! A lot more. Kat v d is talented, a bit of a poser, but she know's it, and so what really, everyone's a poser sometimes - i doubt there's anyone on the planet who doesn't want to look cool now and then :) i reckon yoshi's o.k, and Darren (the little guy) is friendly and capable, so i don't see the problem. Either way, i still think it's a good show, so I'm on the 'ROCKS' team at the moment:)