Art or Not (A question of "body art")This is a discussion thread · 6 replies I know I'm relatively new to the site, and perhaps not as knowledgeable as many other members in regards to tattoos and various other body arts, but my love and intrigue into the many different forms of body art is undeniable. Now I can go into my whole religious back round that prevented me from getting my tattoos as soon as I could Are tattoos and various other form of body art really art? Now I know that this is probably a question most, if not all members have had had some experience answering, but I propose this question more so to ask what does it take for a brilliant tattoo, whether original or not, to be considered high class art? Just wondering since it seems much harder to convince people that a tattoo is great piece of art rather then some "silly mutilation." I think it has to do with the artist's skill ... There's three things - does the guy or girl getting the tattoo say it's art, does the tattooist, or does the world. I know that sounds a bit wanky, but there's different questions there. The guy or girl can say it's art if they believe it is - that's about that - you can't really argue with it - it's an expression of something or other in a physical form. to them it's art. others might disagree, but it's the wearer who gives their personal opinion. The tattooist - I guess many say it's art when they want to justify their profession - they hide behind the word, but they just do it - for various reasons - money, prestige, women, because they slid into it and it's been working out ... Others have always had a love of art, and genuinely express that love and the skill they've learned via the medium of tattooing. Others can't draw for shit and really shouldn't be doing it - but even then, if the wearer and the tattooist feel it's art, then it is - you can have bad art after all - it's still artwork. The world: Their opinions will always be mixed. Look at the debate about Andy Warholl's art or people saying Jackson Pollock was just throwing paint around - it's a matter of opinion. The medium itself is fairly simplistic in many ways - but the artists are constantly pushing what can be done - the problem is that you see so much shit work that you can just get used to it - but every so often you get a reminder of just how amazing tattoos can look and then there's little doubt in my mind. Tom: I actually think it's your last line which shows where the greatest controversy and debate is ...'mutilation' - it's the canvas people have trouble with - the same art on an external canvas would be judged differently. some would be good some would be shit, but it'd still be instantly seen as different. the big debate's more to do with why people get them i think. objectively, that stuff about the wearer, the tattooist and the world is true - but i think people look at peoples' reasons for getting them and try to see whether those reasons are for 'art' or not ... There really are so many different ways to look at it. The canvas and artist I do agree play a big part. I think Tom you hit it pretty good in your "Tramp Stamp" thread in that a lot of people not only consider the quality of the tattoo, but place meant as well. "Mutilation" I just found as a kind of humorous way of people looking at tattoos. I wonder sometimes if all these factors kind of take away from it all or if this is just a scrutiny that's must be endured... A lot of art under goes "gasps" and "groans" I think before it achieves acceptance, and even then people will still talk. I guess I'd like to see more attention to body art as a whole. lol, I know some of my friends reference reality TV shows as a growing acceptance of tattoo, which I'll agree, but I'd be more interested in say a tattooist being awarded something for their work (I know, reaching a little now). How about this, do you think tattooist, tattoos, body piercings or other forms of body art will hold a place in history right along with other great artists and their works? Maybe not right now, but is it even possible? ![]() Aztec Eagle: Amongst the tattoos of animals and birds, the eagle was very widely used. The meaning of this Aztec symbol was power, strength and courage. aztec tattoo designs aztec tattoos Tattoos are art! It's not that time when they were treated diferently;) I mean in a bad conotation... Anonymous: I love the eagle on Daman92, is there anyway I can get a large enough photo for my artist to ink that on me? | Have a question? People are waiting to help. Interesting stuff |